hand brake/brakes

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hand brake/brakes; reasons?
Topic Started: Tue 17 Jun 2008, 18:28:16 (164 Views)
Mart	Tue 17 Jun 2008, 18:28:16 Post #1
Moderator Posts: 3,464 Group: PE30 Members Member #343 Joined: 5-01-06	I adjusted my handbrake for the test and straight away I got a really firm and good pedal . ideas please? Mart.
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jolf	Tue 17 Jun 2008, 21:14:08 Post #2
PE30 Sergeant 1st Class Posts: 1,957 Group: Admin Member #858 Joined: 19-09-06	Strange, i didn't think the handbrake cable would have any effect on the pedal .
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loopylee	Tue 17 Jun 2008, 23:20:51 Post #3
PE30 Sergeant Major Posts: 5,039 Group: Admin Member #35 Joined: 10-11-05	Mart Tue 17 Jun 2008, 18:28:16 I adjusted my handbrake for the test and straight away I got a really firm and good pedal . ideas please? Mart. sorry mate i cant help here ? i didnt think that the handbrake and footbrakes had got any direct link ?? i would like to know how they could be linked awaiting an interesting answer lee



Mart	Wed 18 Jun 2008, 16:48:32 Post #4
Moderator Posts: 3,464 Group: PE30 Members Member #343 Joined: 5-01-06	loopylee Tue 17 Jun 2008, 23:20:51 i didnt think that the handbrake and footbrakes had got any direct link ?? i would like to know how they could be linked awaiting an interesting answer lee One thing I forgot to mention is that i have rear drums so maybe that has an effect on things? They are twice as keen as they were last week!!! Mart.
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jolf	Wed 18 Jun 2008, 18:12:25 Post #5
PE30 Sergeant 1st Class Posts: 1,957 Group: Admin Member #858 Joined: 19-09-06	are you sure you adjusted the handbrake? or the shoes?
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Mart	Wed 18 Jun 2008, 18:48:37 Post #6
Moderator Posts: 3,464 Group: PE30 Members Member #343 Joined: 5-01-06	jolf Wed 18 Jun 2008, 18:12:25 are you sure you adjusted the handbrake? or the shoes? Last year I put on new disc`s /pads, and also new drums,shoes,springs etc. I also bled the brakes as well. At the same time i took up the handbrake cable from inside the car and it semed ok but I wasnt convinced. I tightened up the cables again from inside the car (last week ) and the next morning when I first drove her , I noticed the firm pedal and less pedal travel. The brakes have always been ok since the work I did , but now it`s like driving a different car I was a bit disapointed at the time of fiting all the new stuff but now I feel more confident in the car.(it must be the wings ) Mart.
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Mart	Wed 18 Jun 2008, 18:50:59 Post #7
Moderator Posts: 3,464 Group: PE30 Members Member #343 Joined: 5-01-06	jolf Wed 18 Jun 2008, 18:12:25 are you sure you adjusted the handbrake? or the shoes? i dont have a seperate drum for the hand-brake Ian. They work off the rear brakes mate. But you new that. Mart.
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jolf	Wed 18 Jun 2008, 19:03:05 Post #8
PE30 Sergeant 1st Class Posts: 1,957 Group: Admin Member #858 Joined: 19-09-06	oh god knows mate, i'm crap on brakes TBH I always thought you adjusted the handbrake from underneath. I was wondering if you had adjusted the shoes, because i think that would affect the pedal and handbrake?? Edited by jolf, Wed 18 Jun 2008, 19:04:15.
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johnl320	Wed 18 Jun 2008, 21:49:35 Post #9
PE30 Gunnery Sergeant Posts: 1,418 Group: PE30 Members Member #13 Joined: 9-11-05	This would point to incorrectly adjusted rear shoes by tightening the cables you have taken up the excessive clearance between shoes and drum, meaning less movement of the slave cylinder is required to apply the shoes giving a higher pedal ( less fluid required by the rear slaves. not sure if these shoes are fitted with self adjusters, even the haynes book of jokes should shed some light on that. Either way Mart its wrong and will probably lead to shorter shoe and cable life. john
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loopylee	Wed 18 Jun 2008, 22:47:41 Post #10
PE30 Sergeant Major Posts: 5,039 Group: Admin Member #35 Joined: 10-11-05	there you go maate i knew someone would be along to throw some light on your problem well done john lee



Mart	Thu 19 Jun 2008, 17:27:18 Post #11
Moderator Posts: 3,464 Group: PE30 Members Member #343 Joined: 5-01-06	johnl320 Wed 18 Jun 2008, 21:49:35 This would point to incorrectly adjusted rear shoes by tightening the cables you have taken up the excessive clearance between shoes and drum, meaning less movement of the slave cylinder is required to apply the shoes giving a higher pedal ( less fluid required by the rear slaves. not sure if these shoes are fitted with self adjusters, even the haynes book of jokes should shed some light on that. Either way Mart its wrong and will probably lead to shorter shoe and cable life. john cheers John. They do have self adjusters so I`ll look into it. The drums ,shoes and springs were all renewed last year so they may not be working correctly as a mate of mine fit the springs for me. Mart. Edited by Mart, Thu 19 Jun 2008, 17:29:11.
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ade_law	Thu 16 Oct 2008, 19:45:43 Post #12
Posts: 9 Group: New Blood Member #1,450 Joined: 16-10-08 Location bournemouth	generally speaking on drums the hand brake adjustment affects the "at rest" point of the shoes so the better adjusted they are the less travel the shoes have to do before contacting the drum. you would think the auto adjusters would sort this tho. Ade



Mart	Thu 16 Oct 2008, 20:00:10 Post #13
Moderator Posts: 3,464 Group: PE30 Members Member #343 Joined: 5-01-06	ade_law Thu 16 Oct 2008, 19:45:43 generally speaking on drums the hand brake adjustment affects the "at rest" point of the shoes so the better adjusted they are the less travel the shoes have to do before contacting the drum. you would think the auto adjusters would sort this tho. Ade Good point Ade, If, and I mean If it does not rain , this IS being looked at in the morning. Mart. If it rains my
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loopylee	Thu 16 Oct 2008, 23:20:52 Post #14
PE30 Sergeant Major Posts: 5,039 Group: Admin Member #35 Joined: 10-11-05	its bound to rain mart we live in Britain lee



Mart	Fri 17 Oct 2008, 16:22:49 Post #15
Moderator Posts: 3,464 Group: PE30 Members Member #343 Joined: 5-01-06	loopylee Thu 16 Oct 2008, 23:20:52 its bound to rain mart we live in Britain lee Well it didnt rain for a change but found nothing too amiss. Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm. Mart.
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